Mecca Grade Estate Malts

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For those with experience using the Mecca Grade Shaniko (White Winter Wheat) Malt.. Does it taste as described "like cookie dough right off the spoon"?
Oddly enough, it kinda does. I tasted the wort after the mash and boil and there is a very subtle cookie flavor. I used 3 lbs of Shaniko and 12 lbs of Lamonta. I was actually worried it would make my IPA taste weird but I have enough hops in it that the cookie flavor doesn't really come through. I think Shaniko could be really good in a sweet stout recipe.
 

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Looks yummy! Well, is it?
I've only used a bit of Shaniko so far and am almost out of Lamonta. Boy, it's made my beers better!
It is! Maybe it's a waste to use premium malts with a lot of hops but I can taste the difference that they add so I will keep doing it. I would like to try a recipe that lets the malt flavor come through more.
 
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Any feed back on Gateway ? I'm curious to give this a go, and thinking about how I should mash it.
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If I drive up there, will they sell me 10 pounds? Or do I need to buy an entire bag? I'm asking because I'd like to get a variety of malts.
 
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If I drive up there, will they sell me 10 pounds? Or do I need to buy an entire bag? I'm asking because I'd like to get a variety of malts.
They have a tasting room, and do tours or the Malt House. I know people have gotten smaller amounts there, but I think you need to call ahead to get sorted. In Portland, FH Steinbarts carries their stuff - last time I was in there I believe they had their entire collection.
 

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I just tapped a pilsner with the mecca grade pilsner and vienna malts and US Tettnang hops. Definitely the best pilsner I've made. Super rich flavor. I may be sticking with this even though it costs more, at least for my pilsners. I have a SMASH pale ale fermenting right now with the mecca grade pale malt I'm excited to try.
 

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I’ve used it quite a bit and agree with Denny - it brings something different to the table. And for 5-10 gallon batches it is certainly worth the money.
But on the flip side, as I’m now venturing into a commercial endeavor, I don’t see how it makes sense even at the 1bbl scale. My base malt cost would almost triple, and I don’t see it adding a distinct enough taste to justify it as the subtly will be lost on most folks.
 
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It is indeed a tough market! Compass Brewing PDX is now (as of July 1) OLCC licensed production brewery based in Sellwood. We are working through some test batches now and hope to have some taps in a couple of places before the end of the summer. I’ll be sure and update you when we get the locations nailed down. Longer term plan is for brick and mortar, but the current situation making it longer term!
and I would absolutely love to use Mecca grade exclusively- the original concept was to use all locally sourced materials, but it’s really hard to do. I totally get the time and effort they have to put into their product and understand the economics of it. But it doesn’t pencil out for me right now. When we expand, it might be possible to make it worth a large order from them and drive over and pick it up - gives me and excuse to throw some flies on the D for an afternoon anyway.
 

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I picked up some or the rimrock rye and am going to use it soon, but I've never done a rye beer before. What % of it are you guys using in your beers? It's fairly light(4.8L) I just don't want to overdo the spice
 

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I use 15-20% but I like rye. Rimrock is great too. I noticed the difference right away. But, you may want to start at about 10% if you've not used to rye. Plus, unless you're doing a no sparge, you will do better to use some rice hauls in the mash.
 
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I go 16% in my favorite Saison recipe. I like to use low amounts in my more Trappist style beers too.
 

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It’s fairly easy to find here in Portland by the pound at home brew shops. But none of the distributors such as BSG or CMG carry it.
 

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FYI, Mecca Grade is now selling by the pound via a Square page: | Mecca Grade Estate Malt
cool, thanks for the heads-up. for the fun of it i priced out a few different orders, and the price was consistently around $87 per sac total (includes ~$25 shipping). i'm relatively close to Madras, about a 5 hour drive away, so YMMV. i pay a little less than that for Maris Otter and euro-pils, so it's certainly not unreasonable... maybe i'll treat myself to a sac or two for my upcoming birthday.

still kicking myself that for the 2017 eclipse i drove through Madras but didn't know about Mecca Grade... would have filled up the trunk.
 
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I’m about 1.5 hrs to Madras, and their farm is about 20 mins from one of my favorite fly fishing spots. That all said, I can’t get out there as often as we need grain unless I buy 20-30 sacks at a time, and can’t afford the outlay right now. Hopefully in the future
 

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Are you able to work directly with Mecca? Their website is pretty easy to navigate. They do wholesale accounts now. [email protected]. I am sure you know of this as you're in the game.
Yes. It’s the shipping that’s tough. But we are committed to using as much local ingredients as possible. We’re using all Imperial yeast, have accounts with Crosby hop farms, and drive to BSG to get our grain weekly! If we get big enough to get pallets at a time, the shipping gets easier. And I’d make excuses to go throw a few flies on the D and grab a truckload of Mecca Grade on the way home!
 

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Anyone have experience with their "Gateway Under-modified Wind Malt?" Considering giving that a fling, after reading about Luftmalz in Fal Allen's book on Gose.
 

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steinbart now has a flat rate option for 6.99. I put a 50lb sack in my cart and it said it was still only 6.99 for shipping.
Even better when using the free shipping option.
 

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^Ya, I seen that too.

The 6.99 is low enough though to make me consider them more for grain. Before it would of been 20something to get a batch worth of grain sent to California.
 

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I have not gone back in a week or so but there was still a $7 option for grain by the pound. If it stays that way I will order more from them. Will order some skagit before more mecca grade though.
Ah I see now.. I tried adding 50lbs to the per-lb option and now see the $6.99 flat rate.
 

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I am planning on getting some Skagit Purple Obsidian here pretty soon.
on page 1 there was some chatter about Skagit's purple Obsidian malt (apologies for the slight change in subject... maybe we should call this the PWN-grown malt thread?). i just got my hands on 20 pounds of it.

any reports on people's experience with this malt? what percentage did you use? what were the taste contributions, if any? tips for use?

i'm thinking of doing 50-60% Obsidian, the rest pils, simple noble'ish hopping, and splitting the batch between a few different yeast (probably a british strain, a saison and a kviek).
 

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Has anybody made a Vienna lager from Vanora malt?
I like my Vienna’s on the upper side of the ibu’s.
So I was wondering if Mecca’s Vanora is “richer”. If so I’ll probably bump up my hop.
 
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